The 1982 - 1986 Tylenol Murders and Unabomber Ted Kaczynski

Re: Revised Article:Who was the Tylenol Killer of 1982 and 1986?

Postby Gomez on Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:25 pm

As explained in this thread, the surveillance photo shows that someone who resembled Theodore Kaczynski was present, on September 29, 1982, when Paula Prince bought the poisoned Tylenol at the Walgreens drug store at 1601 North Wells Street, Chicago, IL 60614.

http://maps.google.com/maps?client=safa ... CBgQ8gEwAA

Previously, on June 3, 1980, Percy Addison Wood received the letter with the return address of “Enoch W. Fischer, 3414 N. Ravenswood, Chicago, IL 60657”.

http://maps.google.com/maps?client=safa ... CBQQ8gEwAA

Just a short drive between these two locations along North Lincoln Avenue...
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Re: Revised Article:Who was the Tylenol Killer of 1982 and 1986?

Postby akwilks on Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:43 pm

Good find. That is very interesting.

Also, a "Ravenwood" return address was used on a bomb in the VANPAC case, the mail bomb murders of Judge Robert Smith Vance and Attorney Robert Robinson.

So we seem to have a Ravenwood area of Chicago, and a Ravenwood Ave. in Chicago, which Kaczynski used as a return address on the bomb to Percy Wood. and which is within 10 minutes of the store where Paula Prince purchased tainted Tylenol - observed by someone who looks very much like Kaczynski!
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Re: Revised Article:Who was the Tylenol Killer of 1982 and 1986?

Postby akwilks on Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:58 pm

This is the item created by Ted Kaczynski and given to his mother.

It depicts a black RAVEN carved onto WOOD.

The term RAVENWOOD was used as a return address by Ted Kaczynski on a bomb to Percy Wood, and also as a retrun adress of RAVENSWOOD on a bomb that killed Attorney Robert Robinson in the VANPAC case.

Ricardo Gomez also discovered RAVENWOOD was the name of a nieghborhood that had poisoned Tylenol on its store shelves in Chicago.


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Re: Revised Article:Who was the Tylenol Killer of 1982 and 1986?

Postby akwilks on Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:41 pm

Found by Cimm:

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Also found by Cimm, July 11, 1986 newspaper articles on TWO tampering incidents:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=9j ... onio&hl=en

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I don't know a lot about poisons, and what little I know I am not going to talk about. Some of the chemicals in Ted's cabin could be regarded as Cyanide percursors - things that can be used to make Cyanide. If that is what he did, I don't know.

CIMM asked:

AK, what do you think about the 1986 Salt Lake City cocaine murder/attempted murders just a few months prior to the bombing of Gary Wright (by Ted Kaczynski) in Salt Lake City in 1987? I wasn't able to find any more information on these attacks.

Excellent work, thanks for explaining all of those deaths.

My answer:

That is very interesting. What were the months of the Utah poisonings?

You may not know this but there were several cyanide deaths from cocaine in the Chicago area right prior to the 1982 Tylenol deaths. I mean within weeks prior, but police said probably not related. One of the men who died was awaiting trial on cocaine dealer charges, and his father was a city attorney, last name Carpenter I think, and some in the press said his son was getting favorable treatment. Then he was killed by Cyanide in cocaine. Could be a rival dealer, or a fluke, but somebody who thinks the system is corrupt might have resented this young man and his father, and "Carpenter" has a wood element, doesn't it?

I made a mistake.

The name of the accused drug dealer who died of Cyanide was NOT "Carpenter", it was "Husted". (Don't tell Rand! Ha ha.)

But - and this is why "Carpenter" lodged in my head - his father was Village Attorney for "CARPENTERSVILLE" Illinois.

Here:

DRUG DEATH PROBES REOPENED

The Cook County Medical Examiner's office has reopened investigations into three cocaine-related deaths that occurred this fall after cyanide also was found in the victims' systems.



One of the overdose victims, convicted drug dealer Mark A. Husted, 32, died Sept. 14 at the home of a friend in Des Plaines, two months before he was to face additional drug charges. His father, Carpentersville Village Attorney Richard Husted, apparently urged the re-investigation into the death because of a feeling that his son may have been murdered.



The original cause of death for Husted was listed as a massive overdose of cocaine But the re-examination showed that Husted's body tissues contained a lethal level of cyanide. Seven Chicago-area people died between Sept 29 and Oct. 1 after unknowingly taking cyanide-laced Extra-Strength Tylenol capsules.



Dr Michael Schaffer, chief toxicologist in the medical examiner's office said on January 13, 1983 that officials were checking the deaths of Husted, Galen Parriott, 30, of Skokie, and Marie Louise Watkins, 21, of Chicago "because of the close proximity (in time) to the cyanide deaths."



Toxicology reports showed each of the three had ingested lethal doses of cyanide. Schaffer said Authorities found 3.54 micrograms of cyanide in Husted's system, and officials said 3 to 5 micrograms of cyanide is enough to kill an adult As a result of that test, toxicologists are testing all suspected victims of cocaine overdoses for cyanide.



"We are continuing these investigations because we are finding now that cyanide is an easy poison to obtain, and we don't want to overlook any possible cyanide poisoning case," said Medical Examiner Robert Stein. A detective on the task force looking into the Tylenol murders said it would be valuable to know if the cyanide reported to have caused these three deaths was the same type that killed the Tylenol victims, but he said it is impossible to conduct such a test.

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From American Fraud website:

The String of Cyanide Poisonings

April 3, 1982: William Pasqual died in Philadelphia after swallowing a cyanide laced Extra Strength Tylenol capsule.


July 26, 1982: Jay Mitchell died in Big Horn, Wyoming after swallowing a cyanide laced Extra Strength Tylenol capsule.


August 1982: Marie Louise Watkins died in Chicago, Illinois from cyanide poisoning; the source of the cyanide is unknown.


September 15, 1982: Mark Husted died in Des Plaines, Illinois from cyanide poisoning; the source of the cyanide is unknown.


September 28, 1982: Kane County Deputies Al Swanson and Joseph Chavez became violently ill with symptoms matching sub-lethal cyanide poisoning minutes after handling Extra Strength Tylenol capsules strewn in a Howard Johnson’s parking lot in Elgin, Illinois.


September 29, 1982: Mary Kellerman, Adam Janus, Stanley Janus, Theresa Janus, Mary Lynn Reiner, Mary McFarland and Paula Prince died after swallowing cyanide laced Extra Strength Tylenol capsules in the Chicago area.


December 1, 1982: Galen Parriott died in Skokie, Illinois from cyanide poisoning; the source of the cyanide is unknown.


October 1982 to February 1986: FDA spokesperson William Grigg says several people died after swallowing cyanide laced Tylenol capsules since the 1982 Tylenol murders.


February 8, 1986: Diane Elsroth died in Yonkers, New York after swallowing a cyanide laced Extra Strength Tylenol capsule.


February 17, 1986: Johnson & Johnson stopped producing Tylenol in capsule form.

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THE 1986 CYANIDE AND TYLENOL DEATHS

In the three years after the 1982 Tylenol Murders, there were numerous tampering incidents and injuries. All of these were thought to be copycats, hoaxes or isolated acts. None were thought to be the work of the Tylenol Killer.

There was an incident in May of 1984 that proved to be lethal. In Manitowoc, Wisconsin a tax auditor named Thomas Dresser died after drinking a Coca - Cola bottle that had Cyanide in it. At first considered a murder, suicide was later mentioned as a possibility, though the known facts are not in accord with a suicide and the case was never fully solved. An item found in Kaczynski's cabin indicates that he might have been in Manitowoc, Wisconsin. It is a box containing Potassium based chemicals, chemicals which can be a precursor to making Potassium Cyanide. The label on the box indicates it came from a lab in Manitowoc, Wisconsin. Since it is highly doubtful Kaczynski ordered it through a traceable means like mail delivery, he probably bought, stole, garbage picked or otherwise obtained it directly from the premises of that lab. The FBI inventory lists the item as "MB 171 two small white cardboard boxes labeled "Potassium chromate K. CrO, for lab use only. Hagenow Labs, Inc., Manitowoc, Wis.," in a white plastic shopping bag." This item is poisonous.

Kaczynski also had chemicals with labels indicating they came from labs in Long Island, New York and San Antonio, Texas - each place within a one hour drive of a 1986 Cyanide death. The chemical with the San Antonio label was also a Potassium based chemical.

There were many other tampering scares, copycats and hoaxes, but no more lethal ones and none were grouped together in time, travel path or region. That changed in 1986.

In 1986 from February to September, five people died of Cyanide poisoning and one other man was sickened. Of the six incidents, four involved Tylenol, one involved Anacin 3 and one involved Lipton Cup A Soup. Yet the FDA generally tended to downplay reports the incidents were linked, and local authorities eventually gave questionable cause of death rulings in many of the cases. Hotel records show that Kaczynski was on the move and headed out of state when these incidents happened. He almost never left the state unless it was to commit a crime, and yet there were no bombings during the entire year of 1986. In chronological order, the incidents were as followed:

* On February 4 1986 in Tyler, Texas - Bill Case, a 41 year old medical lab technician, took Tylenol, went into convulsions and was hospitalized. The Tylenol was tainted with an unknown substance, the incident was basically forgotten and no more information is publicly available.

* On February 8 1986 in Bronxville (Yonkers), New York - Diane Elsroth, 23, a legal secretary and daughter of a NY State Policeman, dies of Cyanide in Tylenol. Death is ruled to be a clear homicide, but is never solved. Nationwide press coverage sparks fears of a new series of Tylenol Murders. The killer was apparently able to defeat the new three layers of tamper resistant packaging. Poisoned bottles were purchased at the A & P grocery store on CEDAR Street in Bronxville, and another poisoned bottle was found at the nearby Woolworth store on PONDFIELD Road in Bronxville. A CEDAR is a type of TREE and a commonly used WOOD, a POND is a small body of WATER and a FIELD can be of GRASS, PLANTS or TREES. Just like Kaczynski throughout his career as the Unabomber, and just like the Tylenol Killer of 1982, in 1986 locations are selected that reference themes of Nature, here in particular Wood, Trees, Water and Fields. In fact, three of the 1982 Chicago area sites had the word "Field" in their street or city names, and others refer to Trees, Wood or Water.

* On February 23-25 1986 in Nashville, Tennessee - Timothy Green, 32, dies of Cyanide in Tylenol. An intact Tylenol capsule filled with Cyanide is found in a bottle under the bed. Homicide is strongly suspected. There is no suicide note, history of suicidal statements or depression. But the case is eventually ruled a probable suicide, partially calming fears of another nationwide Cyanide Tylenol murder spree. Mr. Green was an evangelist and part time jewelry salesman. It is stated he had purchased Cyanide shortly before his death, and this is the sole evidence of suicide offered. But Cyanide is commonly used to clean jewelry and silver, which is what Mr. Green stated to the salesman was his intended use of the purchase.

* On April 29 1986 in Pullman, Washington - Sandie Gregory, 21, a technician in the animal lab at Washington State University, dies of Cyanide in Tylenol. There is no suicide note or history of suicidal statements. Murder is suspected. Yet eventually local police say she was "depressed" and probably killed herself, stating she had access to Cyanide at the lab were she worked. It is also stated that empty capsule shells with traces of Cyanide are found in her apartment. This could be consistent with suicide, though no reason is given why she would go through the trouble of putting the Cyanide in Tylenol before taking it. The empty shells could also be consistent with the lab tech investigating other capsules after becoming ill, or a killer creating and placing the tainted capsules in her apartment and targeting her specifically for death.

* On May 22 1986 (the day Kaczynski turned 44) in Austin, Texas - Kenneth Faries, 24, a University of Texas chemistry student and lab worker, dies of Cyanide in an Anacin 3 capsule. A Cyanide filled capsule is found still in the bottle. The capsules were purchased at a WalGREENS, a store that was also targeted in the 1982 Tylenol Murders, though the exact location is not publicly disclosed. (The only Walgreens in Austin now is on East RIVERside Street). The first ruling by the ME is that Mr. Faries was murdered. On June 1, 1986 the Travis County Medical Examiner Dr. Bayardo stated "There is nothing, nothing at all that indicates to me that this is a suicide." Investigation revealed that the Cyanide did not match any that Mr. Faries could have had access to on campus, and there was no suicide note, history of depression or suicidal statements. But on June 18, 1986, it was stated that the Cyanide was similar to some found somewhere on campus, and Dr. Bayardo declared the case a probable suicide. No reason is given as to how or why Mr. Faries placed Cyanide in an Anacin 3 capsule he then left in the bottle. For the third time in a row in 1986, what is at first thought to be an apparent Cyanide tampering murder is questionably declared a suicide, and a natiowide scare is largely averted.

* On June 6 1986 in Auburn, Washington - Bruce Nickell, 52, State of Washington employee and heavy equipment operator, dies after taking a Cyanide laced Excedrin capsule.

* On June 11 1986 in Auburn, Washington - Sue Snow Webking, 40, bank executive, dies after taking a Cyanide laced Excedrin capsule. Stella Nickell, the wife of Bruce, is convicted of the tampering deaths of her husband and Ms. Snow Webking. The motive is said to be insurance money, with the death of the woman designed to make it look like part of a random attack. The evidence used to convict Mrs. Nickell, while all circumstantial, seems fairly strong, and these two probable copycat murders are NOT considered part of the series this article examines. But Mrs. Nickell, currently serving a long prison sentence, still maintains her innocence, several key prosecution witnesses have recanted their testimony and some of the evidence used against her has since been challenged.

* On September 1 1986 in Runnemede, New Jersey - Louis Denber, a 27 year old electronics technician for the RCA corporation, sits down with his wife and mother to eat. His wife pours hot water into his Lipton Cup A Soup bowl. He takes a swallow, and states "This doesn't taste right. This really doesn't taste right." He gets up from the table, throws out the soup and says "I don't feel well". He falls on the floor and goes in to convulsions. He is declared dead of Cyanide poisoning a few hours later at the hospital. His death is ruled a homicide, and is never solved.

Austin, Tyler, Nashville, Runnemede and Bronxville are all roughly aligned on the interstate highway system, going in a Northeastern direction from Austin to Bronxville. This is consistent with one person travelling by bus or car and doing all or most of these crimes. And Tyler, Nashville and Bronxville are actually perfectly aligned on the map - you can draw a straight line and go through all three. The I-90 Highway route from Pullman, Washington to Austin, Texas goes right through the Deer Lodge - Helena Montana area, just one hour from the Kaczynski cabin in Lincoln, and it was at a Helena hotel Kaczynski would usually stay on his way to, or coming back from, his criminal acts. And records show Kaczynski did stay at the hotel in Helena during April and May of 1986, consistent with him being on the move out of state to commit these poisoning and tampering crimes. And in the Elsroth case, the CEDAR Street and PONDFIELD Road locations of stores with tainted bottles clearly matches the criminal signature of both Ted Kaczynski and the 1982 Tylenol Killer.

Of the six victims, four were technicians, three worked in a laboratory, and two worked for universities - all groups targeted for death by Kaczynski. If you put the names of every American in a hat, and drew out six names, how many technicians would you expect to get? How many lab workers? University lab workers? What would the odds be that all six names would fall from "C" to "G" in the alphabet? We don't know the answers to these question, but they are interesting enough to cause one to wonder if the some of the tamperings were done by placing bottles on store shelves (as clearly happened in the Elsroth case), but if other persons were targeted by tamperings done in their homes.

True crime researcher and writer Doug Oswell discovered one very interesting piece of evidence collected from Kaczynski's cabin that might pertain to these 1986 deaths. Found in Kaczynski's cabin (and included in the prosecutorial documents in U.S. v. Kaczynski) was a single loose-leaf notebook page containing the redacted names of persons living in the Austin and Houston areas, along with a map pinpointing the addresses associated with the Houston names. Yet Kaczynski never did any bombings in Texas. It would be interesting to see if any of those names are Case or Faries, or the names of other businessmen, scientists, lab workers, University employess or students who might have died young of a "heart attack", "stroke" or "suicide", all common misdiagnoses for Cyanide deaths.

But the debatable verdicts of probable suicides in several of these 1986 cases largely defuse another nationwide panic. Johnson & Johnson acted responsibly and ended capsule production, shifting to tamper proof hard caplets. James Lewis can be ruled out as a suspect in the 1986 crimes because he was in federal prison in 1986. Yet there are strong reasons to think the 1982 and 1986 murders were done by the same person. And once again, significant signature, direct, circumstantial and geographic evidence points to Theodore Kaczynski as a viable suspect.


ANOTHER MURDER

One other item. We know that Kaczynski sent a bomb to Thomas Mosser, an executive at the public relations firm Burson-Marstellar, which killed Mr. Mosser on December 10, 1994. "MOSS", of course, grows on TREES, which may in part be why this man was selected. But why that firm? Kaczynski later briefly mentioned the work of that firm on the Exxon Valdez incident, though it was said that they did not play a significant role in the PR for that incident. But look what major corporate crisis they did work on - from wikipedia:

"Burson-Marsteller’s strong position in crisis management has resulted in its identification with many major corporate crises of the past half century. It is well known for assisting Johnson & Johnson in the two Tylenol crises in 1982 and 1986."

Thus it appears that Kaczynski later targeted and murdered a man who worked for the firm that handled public relations for Johnson & Johnson during both Tylenol tragedies.
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Re: Revised Article:Who was the Tylenol Killer of 1982 and 1986?

Postby Jem on Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:30 am

Whoa, that 3414 return address caught my attention! Check it out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mnemonic_major_system

Numeral , Associated Consonants, Mnemonic
0 s, z, soft c - "z" is the first letter of zero. The other letters have a similar sound.
1 d, t - d & t have one downstroke and sound similar (some variant systems include "th")
2 n - n has two downstrokes
3 m - M has three downstrokes and looks like a "3" on its side
4 r - last letter of four, also 4 and R are almost mirror images of each other
5 l - L is the Roman Numeral for 50
6 j, sh, soft "ch", dg, zh, soft "g" - a script j has a lower loop / g is almost a 6 flipped over
7 k, hard c, hard g, hard "ch", q, qu - capital K "contains" two sevens
8 f, v - script f resembles a figure-8. V sounds similar. (some variant systems include th)
9 b, p - p is a mirror-image 9. b sounds similar and resembles a 9 rolled around
Unassigned Vowel sounds, w,h,y These can be used anywhere without changing a word's number value

This mnemonic system has been around a long time, and is useful for remembering strings of random digits. Anything from phone numbers to hundreds of digits of PI. The number 3414 could be matched to lots of words or phrases, but one in particular certainly stands out.

Anyone think that the 34144 was familiar with this system and added his own bit of twisted word-play?
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Re: Revised Article:Who was the Tylenol Killer of 1982 and 1986?

Postby akwilks on Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:52 am

Hello and welcome to the board! Hope to see more posts by you and other new members.

If you want to, please tell us a little about yourself and how you got interested in the Zodiac case and/or Ted Kaczynski.

I have speculated if the numbers on the label could serve as hints on how to decode the name ENOCH W FISCHER. See viewtopic.php?f=9&t=25 . But the evidence for that is ambiguous at best.

And in what I assume is just a weird coincidence that name can anagram to FW CHOSEN CHERI - and the first probable Zodiac victim was CHERI Jo Bates.

Very interesting post. I had never heard of this system before. I would like to learn more about it. Thank you for posting it.

Maybe I am confused, but if I read you right are you hinting that:

1. The numbers translate to MRTRR, or MRTDRR? Or MRDR? What do you propose that may mean? Mr. Ted RR? Or MURDER?

2. The number for Pi is 3.14.

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Picture of Tylenol Murders Suspect, "The Bearded Man", Watching Paula Prince Buy the Tainted Tylenol That Killed Her

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Re: Revised Article:Who was the Tylenol Killer of 1982 and 1986?

Postby Jem on Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:54 am

I'm glad you responded to my post, AK, because it was one of your posts that first got me interested in this case. I was wondering why you were trying to connect TJK to the Zodiac. Once I discovered that lots of others consider him a suspect, I read more about Kaczynski - especially Doug Oswell's stuff - and then came to the opinion that he's a much likelier Zodiac candidate than any of the others I'd heard about. Also, reading TJK's manifesto, it's difficult to believe that it's actually a call for revolution. Which begs the question: What are you really trying to do here, Ted? And I think Doug's explanation of how the Zodiac-to-Unabomber transformation could work makes so much sense. So that's pretty much it as far as my interest goes. I don't know, nor am I related to, any victim or suspect in the Zodiac, Unabomber or Tylenol-tampering crimes.

About the 3414 address, I'm suggesting that TJK picked this particular address because he was familiar with this mnemonic system and wanted to wanted to put MURDER in the return address as a sick joke. True, the system is not widely known. But it's been around for quite awhile, and fairly easy to stumble across if you happen to be into bookstore-browsing, playing with words and numbers, and other geeky stuff like that. :geek: Certainly anyone who performs memory feats professionally would be familiar with this system. And you can probably find it in many of the popular books on improving your memory by using mnemonic tricks. I first saw it in such a book.

Representing MURDER in the system, you can only get 3414. However, 3414 could represent MARTYR, AMOR DURE, and you can think of many more words or phrases. Also, it could be four different words starting with M, R, D or T, R. So it could represent Mystery Rebel Drives Revolution, for example. Obviously that would be a stretch. On the other hand, MURDER (in this context) just pops out if your familiar with the mnemonic major system. Did TJK use this number intentionally in this way? Well, it's just my guess that, in fact, he likely did. Perhaps not. In any case, I sincerely doubt he would use this trick more than once or twice. It sure would be suspicious, however, if some number TJK used just happened to correspond to the name of one of the Zodiac victims. Like maybe 646910, for CHeRi Jo BaTeS, for example.

You're absolutely right about the name Enoch W. Fischer - there's definitely something "fischy" about it. There's got to be a reason he chose that particular name. I'm clueless there, but glad you're working on it. Also, it's a good thing that you're posting on so many websites; more people will become interested in these cases. And thanks for welcoming me! :)

(Gosh I'm glad this forum has a spell-checker!)
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Re: Revised Article:Who was the Tylenol Killer of 1982 and 1986?

Postby akwilks on Thu May 19, 2011 10:45 am

http://www.wgnradio.com/news/local/brea ... ?track=rss


TED KACZYNSKI SAYS THE FBI IS SEEKING HIS DNA FOR COMPARISON IN THE 1982 CHICAGO TYLENOL MURDERS.

FBI CONFIRMS IT HAS ASKED TED KACZYNSKI TO VOLUNTEER A DNA SAMPLE FOR COMPARISON IN THE TYLENOL MURDERS CASE



The FBI is seeking DNA samples from Theodore Kaczynski, known as the Unabomber, as well as others in its continuing investigation of the 1982 Tylenol poisonings in the Chicago area that killed seven people.

“As part of our re-examination of the evidence developed in connection with the 1982 Tylenol poisonings, we have attempted to secure DNA samples from numerous individuals, including Ted Kaczynski," the FBI said in a statement this morning. "To date, Mr. Kaczynski has declined to voluntarily provide this sample.

"The investigation into the Tylenol murders remains ongoing. No arrests have been made and no charges have been filed.”

FBI spokeswoman Cynthia Yates would not say why the FBI was now interested in Kaczynski, 15 years after he was arrested for an 18-year bombing campaign that killed three people and injured 23 others around the country.

She would also not say why the government would not already have DNA samples from Kascynski, who has been serving a life sentence at a "supermax" prison in Florence, Colo.

The FBI's interest in Kaczynski was first disclosed by Kaczynski himself in court papers filed in federal court in California last week to block a federal auction of his possessions.

Kaczynski, 69, said prison officials visited him three weeks ago and said that "the FBI wanted a sample of my DNA to compare with some partial DNA profiles connected with a 1982 event in which someone put potassium cyanide in Tylenol."

"I have never even possessed any potassium cyanide," he wrote in a 10-page letter filed in the U.S. District Court in Sacramento, Calif.

A federal judge there ordered an auction of his possessions, including his handwritten manifesto and his hoodie and sunglasses, to generate at least a portion of the $15 million in restitution Kaczynski was ordered to pay his victims.

But Kaczynski argued in his letter that some of the possessions could prove his whereabouts and activities in 1982. He also said some of the items taken from his cabin in Montana "will show whether any known cyanide compounds were found in my cabin."

Kaczynski noted that some of the seized materials were written in code. "The majority of the coded materials were devoted to descriptions of my illegal acts," he wrote. "These materials will show whether I ever committed any illegal acts involving cyanide."

In a cover note to federal prosecutors, Kaczynski argued that "it will be not only to my advantage, but also to the advantage of the U.S. government, to retain much of the evidence in my case at least until the matter raised by the Chicago FBI is resolved."

The U.S. attorney's office in Sacramento filed papers Monday opposing a halt to the auction. "Kaczynski has not been indicted in connection with the Chicago Tylenol investigation, and no such federal prosecution is currently planned," it stated.

The judge in the case did not rule on Kaczynski's request by Wednesday morning and the auction began as planned.

The prime suspect in the Tylenol case has been James Lewis, who wrote letters to Tylenol demanding $1 million to stop the killings. He served a 13-year sentence for extortion but has never been charged with murder. In 2009, FBI agents and state police searched his condominium in Cambridge, Mass.

Seven people -- four women, two men, and a 12-year-old girl -- died in 1982 after taking Extra-Strength Tylenol capsules that had been purchased from drug stores and groceries in the Chicago area. Someone had opened the capsules and replaced some of the acetaminophen with cyanide and returned them to the shelves.

The murders caused widespread panic and led to tamper-resistant wrappings becoming the norm on food and medical products.

Kaczynski, who railed against technology as part of his bombing campaign, was arrested in 1996 after David Kaczynski alerted authorities to his brother's writings that he found in the attic of their parents' Chicago area home.

The federal auction includes items seized from Kaczynski's one-room cabin in the Montana woods that served as his base of operations. Among them are Kaczynski's typewriters, a collection of driver's licenses and a birth certificate, knives, bows and arrows, newspaper clippings about his terror campaign and a well-worn copy of a King James Bible.

The auction continues until at least June 2.


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Just did an interview with reporter Jamie Sotonoff of the Chicago Daily Herald ( http://www.dailyherald.com ). I did mention the fact that I got interested in the case through the ZODIAC CASE, and Doug Oswell, and the evidence that Kaczynski was the Zodiac Killer. I had talked to Ms. Sotonoff 2 years ago, and told her that I had given my evidence to the FBI and spoke to FBI agents twice on the phone. Looks like the FBI finally acted on my evidence! But I don't understand why they are ASKING Ted to volunteer DNA, when federal law requires a DNA draw be done on ALL federal prisoners.
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On page 47 of the book Unabomber: The Secret Life Of Ted Kaczynski by Chris Waits and Dave Shors, Waits relates how he told Ted about an old deserted gold mine shaft, and how there was equipment, supplies and a few gold flakes left there. We know Cyanide is used in gold mining. He states Ted did likely go there and notes several items found in the FBI inventory suggesting he did go there, including:

FBI Inventory # L60 - Container of white powder

Cyanide, of course, is a white powder.

In the book Unabomber: The Secret Life Of Ted Kaczynski By Chris Waits and Dave Shors, which seems to have been done with access to FBI data, it mentions on p. 242 that inside the Kaczynski cabin a "hit list" was found with the names and addresses of executives, including those who worked for PEGASUS GOLD, the company that operated mines in Montana, including the Zortman Landusky mine which was involved in several major spills and leakages of Cyanide in 1982 and 1986.

This would tend to confirm the hypothesis that Kaczynski would have been enraged to the point of murder over the Cyanide incidents. In 1982, he would have viewed them as a personal attack on his area and him personally. He might well have felt, in his twisted mind, "OK, if you are going to kill my trees, kill my wood fields, murder my elk, kill our crops, damage our livestock, wreck my ponds, and put Cyanide into well water I drink from, then I will use this same deadly Cyanide against the industrial consumer system you represent."

Also, Pegasus was headquarted in the State of Washington. Washington was the site of three Cyanide deaths in 1986. Stella Nickell was convicted on two of these deaths, but she maintains her innocence, and some of the evidence is debatable.

If Kaczynksi wanted to strike back at that company for leaking and spilling Cyanide in HIS state of Montana, he might very well decide to put Cyanide into products in THEIR home state of Washington.


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Re: Revised Article:Who was the Tylenol Killer of 1982 and 1986?

Postby akwilks on Thu May 19, 2011 3:03 pm

The FBI is finally acting on information and evidence I gave them. Based on research by Doug Oswell, myself and others right here at unazod. Hopefully they will get the court order to compel a DNA draw. Ted has refused to give DNA and says in his filing that he may match the DNA but still be innocent. He does not want his coded notes released which decribe crimes he did. Gee, I wonder why? Hopefully we will soon be able to inlcude or exclude TK from Tylenol, Zodiac and EAR/ONS.


FBI Wants Unabomber’s DNA for Tylenol Probe
By Ann Woolner - May 19, 2011 11:57 AM ET

The FBI is seeking DNA from Unabomber Theodore Kaczynski, who’s serving a life sentence for killing three people with homemade bombs, in connection with the 1982 Tylenol poisonings

Seven people in the Chicago area died, and thousands of bottles of the over-the-counter painkiller were withdrawn. The case was never solved.

Kaczynski made the disclosure in court papers in an effort to stop an auction of his belongings now in progress. It was confirmed today by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

“As part of our re-examination of the evidence developed in connection with the 1982 Tylenol poisonings, we have attempted to secure DNA samples from numerous individuals, including Ted Kaczynski,” the agency said today in a statement. “To date, Mr. Kaczynski has declined to voluntarily provide this sample.”

Kaczynski said in a handwritten court document that prison personnel told him the Chicago office of the FBI “wanted a sample of my DNA to compare with the partial DNA profiles connected with a 1982 event in which someone put potassium cyanide in Tylenol.”

“I have never even possessed any potassium cyanide,” wrote Kaczynski, 68, a former mathematics professor.

Kaczynski, who grew up in the Chicago area, said he refused to surrender a sample unless “the FBI would satisfy a certain condition that is not relevant here.”

DNA Request
Kacyzinski wrote that two prison officers approached him on April 27 and told him the FBI would seek a court order unless he voluntarily gave a DNA sample.

He cited the visit in his attempt to prevent the auctioning of his belongings, asking federal courts in San Francisco and Sacramento, California, to keep until his death some of the things seized from his Montana cabin when they arrested him in 1996.

He wants the government to keep all his journals, which “may provide evidence as to my whereabouts and activities in 1982,” for example.

Assistant U.S. Attorney David Shelledy, who represented the government in the auction case, said in an e-mail, “We will not comment further on the investigation” Kaczynski mentioned.

In court papers responding to Kaczynski’s motion, Shelledy wrote, “Kaczynski has not been indicted” in the Tylenol case, and “no such federal prosecution is currently planned.”

Possible Evidence

Kaczynski wrote that some of the items the government is auctioning could “turn out to be important” in resolving whether he had anything to do with the poisonings.

DNA testing, he said, might cast suspicion on innocent people because 1 percent to 5 percent of Americans share partial profiles.

He also asked that everything he wrote in code be withheld from the sale, because that’s how he wrote when describing his illegal acts.


Neither court ruled on the auction, which started yesterday and will end June 2.

Kaczynski attended high school in Evergreen Park in suburban Chicago. He graduated from Harvard College, then got master’s and doctorate degrees from the University of Michigan.

Tracked and caught by the FBI, he pleaded guilty in 1998 in Sacramento, California, to 13 charges. They included allegations growing from four Sacramento-area explosions that left two men dead and accusations related to a third death, in New Jersey, the Associated Press reported at the time.

Case Still Open
The Tylenol case was being examined by grand juries in two Illinois counties in January 2010, the Chicago Tribune reported, citing people familiar with the investigation. DNA was taken from one suspect after a court order, the Tribune said.

Johnson & Johnson (JNJ), maker of the drug, was viewed as a “hero” for withdrawing 31 million bottles of Tylenol and offering replacements in tablet form, which was safer, according to the New York Times.

Bill Price, a J&J spokesman, declined to comment in an e- mail today.
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Re: Revised Article:Who was the Tylenol Killer of 1982 and 1986?

Postby linda on Thu May 19, 2011 3:12 pm

I think this is "key" news and look forward to the determination of the FBI in getting the DNA. I think that if this pans out, we will find that the results may lead us one step closer to solving the long-awaited, unsolved mystery of the Zodiac crimes.
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