Code Challenge - Zodiac Cipher (Probable Hoax?)

Code Challenge - Zodiac Cipher (Probable Hoax?)

Postby akwilks on Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:55 am

D G O L R
O T N H U L A P
T E U R S L T C V R
OT U A C O S, L (A, S or J)



T E _ L
U Y _ H
H O D I H P
T M
D G O L R
O T N H U L A P

September 25, 1990

The "_" means I have no clue. The rest I have made very, very early provisional possible first stage solves using Harden, 340 and Fairfield. SOME of these or even a LOT of these could be wrong. There could be a "V" symbol before the "T E _ L", and in Harden that is a "B".

Could be some are regular anagrams (TM = MT?) (DGOLR = Gold R?) , maybe some or all then use Caesar 0-3-6-9?

This is PROBABLY a Zodiac hoax. The message could read "ha ha dumb cops North High rocks go Raiders! PS I luv Kelly".

But a certain person was thought to be in California that year, hotel records show he COULD have been, in May 1990 Judi Bari was car bombed and someone probably mailed a strange Zodiac Xmas card to the Chronicle in December 1990.

That the reverse of the card is said to have driftwood on an ocean beach is interesting.

I feel compelled to give a shot to any possible Z code, even if it is 90% likely a hoax.

Can anyone tell who the person on the stamp is? Audrey Hepburn maybe??? Does it say "SANDY BEACHES - CALIFORNIA" on the bottom left corner? Do you think the handwriting of "celebrity cipher" matches any known Z style?


http://img22.imageshack.us/i/zodiaccard ... 990po.jpg/

You can get a better resolution look here, but you will need to join this board, but there is some cool things there, it is free and the people who run it are nice.

http://zodiaczee.50.forumer.com/viewtop ... 220&p=1388
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Re: Code Challenge - Zodiac Cipher (Probable Hoax?)

Postby linda on Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:55 am

Hi, AK... Where did you find this postcard?
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Re: Code Challenge - Zodiac Cipher (Probable Hoax?)

Postby linda on Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:09 am

The stamp appears to be a 1990 Marianne Moore Stamp from the USPS Literary series.
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Re: Code Challenge - Zodiac Cipher (Probable Hoax?)

Postby AweShucks on Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:07 am

Just at a glance my vote is that it is a Hoax. Handwriting is NOT a match.
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Re: Code Challenge - Zodiac Cipher (Probable Hoax?)

Postby akwilks on Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:28 am

Found it at the site I list above.

Handwriting isn't typical Z, I agree. Yet I think I have seen it somewhere before.

Marianne Moore was born on NOVEMBER 15 and dies FEB 5. Nov. 15th is the day TJK put a bomb on the airplane in 1979, and he used that date again, I think, for some mailings and the bomb to U of M Prof. McConnell.
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Re: Code Challenge - Zodiac Cipher (Probable Hoax?)

Postby akwilks on Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:29 am

This is her most famous poem, called POETRY:

I, too, dislike it: there are things that are important
beyond all this fiddle.
Reading it, however, with a perfect contempt for it,
one discovers that there is in
it after all, a place for the genuine.
Hands that can grasp, eyes
that can dilate, hair that can rise
if it must, these things are important not be-
cause a

high sounding interpretation can be put upon them
but because they are
useful; when they become so derivative as to
become unintelligible, the
same thing may be said for all of us – that we
do not admire what
we cannot understand. The bat,
holding on upside down or in quest of some-
thing to

eat, elephants pushing, a wild horse taking a roll,
a tireless wolf under
a tree, the immovable critic twinkling his skin like a
horse that feels a flea, the base-
ball fan, the statistician – case after case
could be cited did
one wish it; nor is it valid
to discriminate against "business documents
and

school-books"; all these phenomena are important.
One must make a distinction
however: when dragged into prominence by half
poets,
the result is not poetry,
nor till the autocrats among us can be
"literalists of
the imagination" – above
insolence and triviality and can present

for inspection, imaginary gardens with real toads
in them, shall we have
it. In the meantime, if you demand on one hand,
in defiance of their opinion –
the raw material of poetry in
all its rawness, and
that which is on the other hand,
genuine, then you are interested in poetry.
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Re: Code Challenge - Zodiac Cipher (Probable Hoax?)

Postby Doug on Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:33 pm

If that's her most famous, I'd hate to see her least.
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Re: Code Challenge - Zodiac Cipher (Probable Hoax?)

Postby akwilks on Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:34 pm

Doug - That's a good one. The poem itself, as poetry, does not make the heart skip a beat.

I note the word "fiddle", used to mean wasting time (?), similar to how it is used by Z ("fiddle and fart around") and I think once by TJK. The poem also speaks to the false world of everyday life.

Did Z ever use a woman on a stamp? I don't think so, and that might lean this more in the hoax file. But TJK did use literary stamps, like Eugene O'Neill.

Linda - How did you know it was Marianne Moore?
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Re: Code Challenge - Zodiac Cipher (Probable Hoax?)

Postby akwilks on Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:40 pm

I am sure Linda was right. Look at this picture of Marianne Moore - it appears to be the basis for the stamp:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Maria ... e_1935.jpg
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Re: Code Challenge - Zodiac Cipher (Probable Hoax?)

Postby Doug on Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:44 pm

akwilks wrote:Doug - That's a good one. The poem itself, as poetry, does not make the heart skip a beat

Agreed, AK. It's essentially just wordy prose chopped up into fragmented lines. However, this style of poetry reminds me a lot of Muriel Rukeyser, whose poem I speculated might have inspired Zodiac in the symbol on the Exorcist letter.
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