Number Theory Linking Zodiac Murder Dates

Re: Number Theory Linking Zodiac Murder Dates

Postby KITE on Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:52 pm

Looking at the 4 dates starting with 12/20/68, equals 100 and starts the pattern. I wonder, now, if the possible fives and tens number theory paralleled, or so, the 4 holiday or otherwise holiday-type days: Christmas, Valentines Day, July 4th, and Halloween. 12/25/68 (12+25+68=105) 2/14/69 (2+14+69=85) 7/4/69 (7+4+69=80) 10/31/69 (10+31+69=110). Keep in mind that you have 0 and 5 out of (0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) possibles, 1 in 5 chance.
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Re: Number Theory Linking Zodiac Murder Dates

Postby KITE on Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:44 pm

This five and ten number pattern business apparently gets even crazier. Look at the numbers for the month and day of the 4 Zodiac dates: December 20, July 4, September 27, October 11. (12/20, 7/4, 9/27, 10/11). Now add them together: 12+20+7+4+9+27+10+11=100. ONE HUNDRED!!! There it is yet again! Can this all be just coincidence or was it all planned out by the numbers. Was Zodiac a numbers man? Is it a match for his name: The Zodiac? Clairvoyance. Future foretold by the numbers perhaps? It started out at one hundred with (12/20/68) (12+20+68=100). Then 7/4/69=80. Then 9/27/69=105. then 10/11/69=90. And then the total of the 4 months and days: One Hundred(100). Strange coincidence if only by chance, in my opinion. Even the four years invovlved: 68,69,69,69. 68+69+69+69=275. Could there be a connection between this and ZODIAC=ZYNSKI (0,-10,-10,-10,-10,+20)?
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Re: Number Theory Linking Zodiac Murder Dates

Postby KITE on Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:59 pm

Looking at the 4 dates: (12/20)(7/4)(9/27)(10/11). Notice that with the months: 12+7=9+10(19). And with the days: 20+11=27+4(31). And that's an even one hundred toal of 19+19+31+31. And then: (7+4)+(10+11)=(12+20)(32). The total of the 4 dates including the years is: 12+20+68+7+4+69+9+27+69+10+11+69=375. The total of the 3 questionable dates is 3+22+70+6+19+70+9+6+70=275
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Re: Number Theory Linking Zodiac Murder Dates

Postby KITE on Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:07 pm

I just felt it necessary to point out that the above post mentioned going from 375 to 275 as far as involving a pattern of numbers and dates. Strangely, and I only noticed this after the fact, but it was my post number 175. Strange how some patterns just fall into place, but it's a lesson too that though arguably against the odds, number patterns can result purely by chance, no matter how arguably bizarrely compelling they may seem to be.
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Re: Number Theory Linking Zodiac Murder Dates

Postby KITE on Mon May 30, 2011 10:19 am

I have something with the number theory that is absolutely colossal, no kidding. ABSOLUTELY COLOSSAL!!! This is just totally unbelievable. Of course, if I made a mistake, I apologize now, but this is something that is not complicated and it is not convoluted. What I'm going to do is set aside the first date of 12/20/68. I'm going to start with 7/4/69 and then go in exact order of crime dates from there. 7/4/69=80 (then next) 9/27/69=105 (then next) 10/11/69.=90. Okay, stop there and remember the order of 80, 105, 90. Now, I'll go to the Zodiac symbol. Of course, we have 4 points N,E,W,S directions on the ZODIAC SYMBOL. What I'm suggesting is that Zodiac started on 7/4/69=80 and that's the top point or NORTH on the ZODIAC SYMBOL. If you start at ZERO at the top or north on the ZODIAC SYMBOL and then go around all the points, you have 0,5,10,15 for the 4 points. If you keep going, continue with FIVES around the ZODIAC SYMBOL, you have NORTH(0,20,40,60,80,100) EAST(5,25,45,65,85,105) SOUTH(10,30,50,70,90) WEST(15,35,55,75,95). Add 20 every time it goes around. In other words, and this is colossal, the crime date numbers exactly follow the ZODIAC SYMBOl!!!!! 80,105,90. Starts with 80 at the top NORTH point to the next EAST point of 105 to the next point of SOUTH with 90. And what is the next cime date? 3/22/70=95!!!! Unbelievable!!! 80,105,90,95. It goes exactly along the ZODIAC SYMBOL. EXACTLY!!! But the 3/22/70 was only attempted. So if Zodiac was playing a bizarre game following the points of the ZODIAC SYMBOL, then he would have to try the EAST point or (75,95,115) again. And that is exactly what the next date is (95) 6/19/70=95. That's totally unbelievable to have 5 crime dates in exact order follow the points of the Zodiac symbol. 80,105,90,(95),95. The isolated first 95 because it was only attempted and thus another 95 is next. Zodiac may have not been responsible for the 6/19/70 crime date but by hinting at it or otherwise taking credit for it, he may have used it to complete his circle. And what about the first crime date(12/20/68=100)? It is a 100 and would also be at the starting point (NORTH). If you start there, it's going to give you two NORTHS to start or if the points are ABCD, you would end up with AABC(D)D. It does upset the pattern a bit, but you can look at it as the TWO that Zodidac took credit for at once. It's possible that Zodiac meant to start this weird number game with 12/20/68 but then backed out of it and then started it again with 7/4/69. And, of course, supporting that idea is the flurry of communications that began in July 1969 and not back in December 1968 or January 1969. Zodiac may not have had his name or symbol chosen until well after 12/20/68. In Zodiacs warped mind, beginning with the July 4th date might represent to him a "let the revolution begin" sort of thing, his revolt against society. Obviously, this could all be coincidence, but, in my opinion, these number patterns following the Zodiac symbol, it's just mind boggling and a little eerie, actually, in my opinion. 80(7/4/69) NORTH followed by 105(9/27/69) EAST followed by 90(10/11/69)SOUTH followed by 95(3/22/70)WEST(attempted only, doesn't count) followed by a second attempt or claim at 95(6/19/70)WEST and completion of the circling of the ZODIAC SYMBOL.
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Re: Number Theory Linking Zodiac Murder Dates

Postby akwilks on Mon May 30, 2011 2:55 pm

Very interesting!

Does this illustrate your idea Mr. Kite?

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How would any of these fit in?

Now lets get a little more speculative and expansive, and include the possible Zodiac murder of Joan Webster, the bomb on Flight 444 (Zodiac mentioned a Flight 555 and this act was done by Kaczynski) and crimes of the VR/EAR/ONS (thought by police to probably be different names for the same criminal).

Jensen/Faraday (12/20/68) = 12 + 20 + 68 = 100

Ferrin/Mageau (7/4/69) = 7 + 4 + 69 = 80

Hartnell/Sheperd (9/27/69) = 9 + 27 + 69 = 105

Paul Stine (10/11/69) = 10 + 11 + 69 = 90

Kathleen Johns (3/22/70) = 3 + 22 + 70 = 95

Officer Radetich (6/19/70) = 6 + 19 + 70 = 95

Donna Lass (9/6/70) = 9 + 6 + 70 = 85

VR Professor Snelling (9/11/75) = 9 + 11 + 75 = 95

ONS Mr. and Mrs. "H" (10/1/79) = 10 + 1 + 79 = 90

Flight 444 (11/15/79) = 11 + 15 + 79 = 105

ONS Domingo/Sanchez (7/27/81) 7 + 27 + 81 = 115

Joan Webster (11/28/81) = 11 + 28 + 81 = 120

ONS Janelle Cruz (5/4/86) = 95
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Re: Number Theory Linking Zodiac Murder Dates

Postby KITE on Mon May 30, 2011 4:12 pm

Yes, thanks AK. I did make a minor mistake above when I suggested that Zodiac repeated 95 with the claim of 6/19/70. I wrote EAST (75,95,115) and I should have written WEST. But, I find it difficult to accept this all as coincidence. ONE in FIVE are not necessarily good odds to accomplish 7 out of 7 times. One needs only to look at other serial killer dates. Another way to look at this, and this is just strange, I would say, but here is the pattern: (80)=7/4/69 (85)=9/6/70 (90)=10/11/69 (95)=6/19/70 (100)=12/20/68 (105)=9/27/69. The only one left is the extra (95) 3/22/70, but that's the one that was only attempted. I mean, it's crazy enough to get 7 out of 7, but to have a pattern of the SIX at 80,85,90,95,100,105 with the extra (95) as apparently the one that didn't go as planned. I mean, I can appreciate a strange coincidence, but this just seems too strange to be a coincidence.
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Re: Number Theory Linking Zodiac Murder Dates

Postby KITE on Mon May 30, 2011 9:58 pm

Okay, what I've got as a follow-up here is ABSOLUTELY COLOSSAL. This keeps getting crazier. Okay, keep in mind the ZODIAC SYMBOL with the 0,5,10, and 15 at the points. Okay, now I'll go over the first FIVE Zodiac crime dates(excluding 3/22/70=(95) as only attempted: 12/20/68=(100), 7/4/69=(80), 9/27/69=(105) 10/11/69=(90) 6/19/70=(95). Oh yeah, if I made a mistake on this I'll apologize now for the build-up. But, those FIVE numbers are 80,90,95,100,105. Now divide them by FIVE and you have: 16,18,19,20,21. Do those numbers look familiar? On the 6/26/70 letter, if I'm not mistaken, right after the 6/19/70 crime date, Zodiac leaves X's on what would be the 6,8,9,10,11 places if the Zodiac symbol ran from ZERO to TWELVE. They match up with the crime date numbers divided by FIVE, only subtract TEN. (6,8,9,10,11) to (16,18,19,20,21). With this parallel, the missing 7 represents the missing 85 from the crime dates. Now, can this all just be coincidence or was this the clue Zodiac left that confirms the whole crime dates number game? In other words, if you take the 5 numbers left on X's by Zodiac from a ZERO to TWELVE based Zodiac symbol you have 6,8,9,10,11. Now add TEN to give you 16,18,19,20,21. Now multiply them by FIVE. You have: 80,90,95,100,105 Those number match the crime scene dates: 7/4/69=(80), 10/11/69=(90), 6/19/70=(95), 12/20/68=(100) 9/27/69=(105). See how a TEN and FIVE are used to do this? This is just totally unbelievable. If I didn't make a mistake, this is just absolutely colossal!!! You know, I'm not positive that those x's on the Zodiac symbol are from the 6/26/70 letter, I think they are. But, if so, the idea that that would directly follow the 6/19/70 is unbelievable. Can that be a coincidence? And, then, does that make it more likely that Zodiac was responsible on 6/19/70 or just quick to claim a date that completed his strange number game? This whole thing is just so unbelievably colossal, oh my it is.
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Re: Number Theory Linking Zodiac Murder Dates

Postby akwilks on Mon May 30, 2011 10:57 pm

It was the November 9, 1969 "Bus Bomb" Letter to the SF Chronicle.

KITE [AK]: [JENSEN-FARADAY]12/20/68=(100), [FERRIN-MAGEAU]7/4/69=(80), [SHEPARD-HARTNELL]9/27/69=(105) [STINE]10/11/69=(90) [RADETICH]6/19/70=(95). Oh yeah, if I made a mistake on this I'll apologize now for the build-up. But, those FIVE numbers are 80,90,95,100,105. Now divide them by FIVE and you have: 16,18,19,20,21. Do those numbers look familiar? On the [11/9/69] letter, if I'm not mistaken, right after the [10/11/69] crime date, Zodiac leaves X's on what would be the 6,8,9,10,11 places if the Zodiac symbol ran from ZERO to TWELVE. They match up with the crime date numbers divided by FIVE, only subtract TEN. (6,8,9,10,11) to (16,18,19,20,21). With this parallel,the missing 7 represents the missing 85 from the crime dates.[DONNA LASS]9/6/70=85. 85 divided by 5 = 17. 17 - 10 = 7. Was DONNA LASS the missing 7 spot?

Reading the Zodiac symbol as a clock face, I do see the marked spots as: 6, 8, 9, 10, 11.


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Re: Number Theory Linking Zodiac Murder Dates

Postby KITE on Tue May 31, 2011 8:01 am

Okay, it is 11/9/69 and not 6/26/70 but it really is the same thing, only Zodiac would be hinting that 95 is in the future and then 95 are the next two with 3/22/70=(95), and then with that apparently not going as planned, the repeat 95 with the claim of 6/19/70=(95). The 95 fulfills the 4 points of the Zodiac symbol with 80,100(NORTH) 105(EAST) 90(SOUTH) before it and then 95(WEST) to complete it. And, as AK points out, the future 9/6/70=(85) date would fulfill the missing number in the pattern with 80,90,(95),95, 100,105 already registered. On 9/27/69, Zodiac records the dates on the car door but has nothing for AUGUST. Is that not a contradiction to a claim of AUG on one of his letters? And why did he write out SEPT 27 69 and not 9-27-69, like the other dates. It could be the anagram of PEST, maybe saying he is a pest among men. It could be that SEPT has a number for letter of (60). leaving possibly (SEPT(60) 27(3x9) 69 630)= 603969630. Or the possibility that with SEPT, the T is placed over the K in knife giving a vertical read of TK. So, back to the X's. On 11/9/69, going by the car door and that Zodiac is apparently committed to announcing his murders up until that point, that leaves 4 crime dates and 5 X's. And so that extra X adds up to 95. The method is consistent with FIVES and TENS and the ZODIAC SYMBOL. Take the 6,8,9,10,11 from the X's on the Zodiac symbol. Now add TEN and then multiply by FIVE:(ADD TEN) (16,18,19,20,21) (MULTIPLY BY FIVE) (80,90,95,100,105) 80 matches 7/4/69=(80) 90 matches 10/11/69=(90) 100 matches 12/20/68=(100) 105 matches 9/27/69=(105) and then 95 matches the next TWO claims or otherwise crime dates: 95 matches 3/22/70=(95)(attempted) and then 95(repeat) matches 6/19/70=(95). The numbers are in FIVES and TENS(80,90,95,100,105) and the method is FIVES and TENS(take 6,8,9,10,11 and add TEN and multiply by FIVE). It all involves use of the ZODIAC SYMBOL as well. This is so clean that I have to suggest the idea that it is all too coincidental to be a coincidence?
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